Tom sits down with longtime Avalanche host and personality Kyle Keefe for one of the most personal and entertaining conversations ever on The Other Tom Green Show. Kyle shares stories from his Wyoming childhood, his unlikely path into broadcasting, the chaos and chemistry with Ryker & Liles, and the deep relationships that shaped his life — including Peter McNabb, Gabe Landeskog, and his own family. A must-listen for Avs fans and Colorado sports diehards.
In this episode, Tom welcomes Avalanche host Kyle Keefe for an insightful, emotional, and hilarious look at the man behind one of Colorado’s most recognizable sports personalities. Kyle reflects on growing up in Casper, Wyoming, his early ambitions in broadcasting, and the relentless persistence that led to his first internship with the Avalanche — including delivering pizzas to the McNichols Arena front desk with his résumé tucked underneath. He opens up about the relationships that shaped his career, from his years working alongside Peter McNabb, to the friendship and respect he built with Gabe Landeskog, to the on-air magic created with Ryker and John-Michael Liles. Kyle also speaks candidly about family, the journey through his wife Dana’s breast cancer diagnosis, the adoption of their daughter Quincy, and the perspective that changed his life. From outrageous behind-the-scenes moments to heartfelt memories, this episode shines a light on why Kyle has become such a beloved part of the Avalanche community and Colorado sports culture.
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Tom Green
Hi there. Welcome to another edition of the other Tom green show. And today we're going to talk a lot about hockey the avalanche. It's a game day for them. They have the Rangers in town tonight. The avalanche are off to a fantastic start this year. And there are many reasons why. Obviously Nathan MacKinnon, already an MVP, is playing at an even higher level than that currently to start the season.
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Tom Green
They're getting terrific goaltending. Coach has a handle on everything. McCarthy runs the blue line. There's pretty much doing everything right to start their season, but many people think the key to their success is the man who's here today.
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Kyle Keefe
I knew that was coming.
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Tom Green
We're going to talk about and with Kyle Keefe when we come back.
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Speaker 1
So I'm bald and have a fat face. Hi. How are you doing? I'm. We'll be right back. Okay?
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Speaker 1
come on, do you.
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Speaker 1
This is not known.
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Speaker 1
You really got a full bite of that? The hell? Oh, my. Mike fell off.
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Speaker 1
That's a good TV right there
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Speaker 1
I got a good feeling.
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Speaker 1
I'm feeling it in my bones.
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Unknown
I can't believe you know that.
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Speaker 1
I got a good feeling.
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Tom Green
Kyle Keefe is with me here today. He must love seeing the clips, because that's. Look at.
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Kyle Keefe
The hair on my.
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Kyle Keefe
Arm, Tom. I mean, it's still. And I shave my arms, too.
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Kyle Keefe
So it's weird that there's actually hair.
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Tom Green
No, I wonder if sometimes people wonder how much, broadcasters are invested in their teams. And I think a clip like that shows you not everyone shows it as much as you. And the fellows, but people who broadcast these games, they love a win.
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Kyle Keefe
I just love it. I mean, I love it, and those guys do too. And I think that's what makes it so special is that we're all so invested. I honestly believe that I care more than the players.
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Kyle Keefe
You, which I probably do.
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Tom Green
You guys, especially Lyles and Rycroft, apparently never really got out of your sophomore year of high school.
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Kyle Keefe
I think the best part about it is we're buddies.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah, we're.
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Kyle Keefe
We're just chillin. And then they put a camera in front of us. And I think that's what's made it. So, you know, I don't want to say easy to watch or fun to watch. I mean, I, I enjoy what I do and I think honest.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
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Tom Green
You guys come through as being this is who you are.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah. Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
And I love that. They, you know, we have our love languages, you know.
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Kyle Keefe
Yes.
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Kyle Keefe
Wants to razz you, you know, is it if you come in there and just expect to just be, you know, have your tires pumped? You're in the wrong place, right? You do something stupid. We're going to point it out. And I think the not having any fear of, of screwing up has made it more relatable. Because this you know, how people talk.
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Kyle Keefe
I mean, when you and I hang out all the time, it's like I, I go home with no confidence, right? Which is healthy.
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Tom Green
So I just talk about high school. And you're from Casper, Wyoming, Natrona County high school? Yeah, it's pretty big. Yeah. Pretty big high school mustangs.
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Kyle Keefe
You know.
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Tom Green
So I was looking at their, list of notable alumni.
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Kyle Keefe
Okay, my on there. No, no.
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Tom Green
Dick Cheney's on there. Pete Williams, NBC. Broadcaster Mike Lansing, the baseball. Why aren't you on here?
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Kyle Keefe
What what list is that?
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Tom Green
This is on Wikipedia.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah. See that you can't trust that.
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Kyle Keefe
No.
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Kyle Keefe
Apparently Mr. Mustang doesn't qualify as,
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Tom Green
Well, are you going to try to fix this?
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Kyle Keefe
Well, is it really Wikipedia? I'm bothered. Actually, no, I don't care. Let me see that. Am I really not on the list?
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Kyle Keefe
No you're not. It's right there. Well, that's shocking, I know. No, I'm kidding.
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Tom Green
So, Natrona is in Casper. Do you know where Natrona comes from? The name.
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Kyle Keefe
Is it, Native American?
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Kyle Keefe
No, no. Come on, I can't remember.
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Tom Green
I think off the top of my head, natron was harvested directly as a salt mixture from a dry lake. Beds in ancient Egypt.
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Kyle Keefe
Oh, that's right.
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Tom Green
It's been used for thousands of years as a cleaning product for both the home and body and blended with oil. It's an early form of soap, and it was used in mummification ceremonies in ancient Egypt. So that's.
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Kyle Keefe
A great.
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Kyle Keefe
Cologne. Yeah. I don't know if you've smelled it, but it's it burns. The.
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Tom Green
Casper is not a big town, but Wyoming doesn't have big towns, but 60,000. I do like the fact that, two things about it has, the Casper Natrona County International Airport, correct. Now, when I look at their schedule, there are 5 or 6 flights a day and they all go to and from Denver.
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Kyle Keefe
It's all in the name, though, right?
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Kyle Keefe
I even ask my dad because I'm flying my dad down here for Christmas. I'm like, let's find the fly. And he's like, Tuesday's looking like the only day. Casper is great. You know what I love so much about being from Casper is that occasionally I'll see fans down here and there.
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Kyle Keefe
I'm from Cheyenne, right from lander, right in Sheridan. I mean.
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Kyle Keefe
I don't know how many people are in the state, half a million in the state. It's not big. And it's hard to come out of the, you know, the names that you just read. I mean, Mike Lansing was a big deal.
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Tom Green
Great player in Montreal. It didn't work out as well here. No, he was, the all star.
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Kyle Keefe
Still holds an MLB record, though, you know.
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Kyle Keefe
For.
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Kyle Keefe
For fastest to the cycle. Took him two and a half innings. Oh, man. Even on the Arizona Diamondbacks.
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Tom Green
That's a record for the Diamondbacks to.
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Kyle Keefe
No. But it's you know, I'm proud to be there. I'm proud to be from there. My dad still lives there. I don't miss the wind. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. That's the one thing that's just not great.
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Tom Green
Now, you went to college up there, but I also know, I always wondered about how the the barbers were up there because I noticed your haircuts, right?
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Kyle Keefe
In high.
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Tom Green
School. It seemed like the mullet was the style. And that was the style.
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Kyle Keefe
Do you know how long it would take me? Oh, yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
I mean, look at the detail.
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Tom Green
That's a lot of hair, too.
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Kyle Keefe
So I'm not totally sure what's going on there. There's a there's definitely a brush involved. And then there's a swoop.
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Tom Green
A blow.
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Kyle Keefe
Dryer and, you know, and the the back thing that's going on there, that is, that's someone with problems that is going to deal with later.
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Kyle Keefe
When you dealt with them, did you have one.
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Tom Green
Mullet?
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Kyle Keefe
No, no, no. Why?
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Tom Green
I kept cutting my hair shorter and shorter as I got older and older. You the same. You're shorter now.
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Kyle Keefe
It's just. Is it? It's so bad that sometimes I look and I'm like. I. There's old clips, you know, of when I first started with the abs, where just everything was good.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
It's when I met Dana, right? Yeah. So. And now everything, it's worked, it's gotten. It's gotten.
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Tom Green
Worse. It's a lot of time, though. Yeah. Things change over long periods of time. Yeah. You stayed in Wyoming for college, played rugby there. Had it even spent a semester I think in Australia.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
Best. I mean, actually it was supposed to be six months. Turn out to be a year. I stayed there for an extra six months, with no visa playing rugby.
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Tom Green
Well, let me down there a little more serious.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah. And it was funny because my dad came over there to see me play, and that just happened to be that when, you know, I played flyhalf, which was the equivalent to like a quarterback on a football team, you get the ball always and yada yada. Well, the guy that played that position was about five 5 to 60.
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Kyle Keefe
And so I would go dirty, I would go to practice and I had to tackle this guy every day. And I'm thinking myself, well, I never played. Yeah, I'll just tell you that. I mean, I was on the team and if something were to happen to him, would the only way that he could get hurt is if he was hit by a bus.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah. Because there was no way fireplug.
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Kyle Keefe
Right.
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Kyle Keefe
So I played over there, I practiced, I guess I should say, and then my thing came up and I ended up hitchhiking from. I lived in a town called Fremantle, Murdoch University in Fremantle, which is just outside of Perth. I hitchhiked from Fremantle all the way down to Auckland, New Zealand, and it took me about four months.
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Tom Green
Hitchhiking across water is tricky.
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Kyle Keefe
Well, it's not water. Well, I took a ferry. I I'm a very good swimmer, but no.
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Kyle Keefe
I took a ferry for that part. But I, you know, I went all the way over to Sydney. Now this is for a different show. Okay. If it was on late night Cinemax I could tell you about. But what an experience. I mean, for, you know, Forrest Gump beard and the people, I mean. Oh.
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Tom Green
It was so from Wyoming, you know, the ambition to go to Australia and or to be there, that that's pretty global because we all think of Wyoming, you know, small town, you know, you stay there and that's fine or you move out and you go elsewhere. But that must have been quite the experience.
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Kyle Keefe
I don't know why I did it. I think they offered it up thinking that no one's going to actually do this. Right. And you pay the same tuition. But, Tom, when I got over there, I was so stressed out over this one test. And the guy said to me, have I got you, Mark? I was like, what?
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Kyle Keefe
He's like, you know, this is pass fail. It's not abcdef. It's pay off. So I just I checked out, I was like, I didn't get a P.
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Kyle Keefe
I mean.
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Kyle Keefe
A d minus a P.
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Kyle Keefe
Right?
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Kyle Keefe
So, you know, once I sort of figure that out, but the doors that it opened and I don't mean professionally or anything like that, but just sort of my view on the world and what else is out there, it allowed me to sort of, you know, take more chances.
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Tom Green
You're like me in that I grew up wanting to be a sportscaster. Yeah. And back when I'm older than you are, when I was doing it, there weren't many people. It wasn't really a career. There were sportscasters, but there wasn't a lane. No, to become a sportscaster. How did where did that ambition come from? Were you watching games and thinking, I just want to sit there.
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Tom Green
I want to be there?
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
I think it was that we had a guy named Frank Gambino.
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Kyle Keefe
Sure. You remember him? Yeah. Frank. Channel two news.
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Kyle Keefe
And Kasper, he always used to say, when somebody make a putt, that ball has eyes. And I thought that was so cool. So I. Yeah, I wanted to be a broadcaster because I wasn't really good at anything. And, you know, I was always sort of, you know, I don't want to say center of attention, but, you know, in my family, three boys.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
You are.
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Tom Green
A bit of an attention.
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Kyle Keefe
Seeker. So just sort of worked out. And when I came down here to Denver, I was like, well, I've got a broadcasting degree, which is like having a degree in painting. No one cares. And no, there are no opportunities, as you well know. So I just said, well, I got to get it. I got to get an internship, I got it, I got to find my way into this somehow.
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Tom Green
So you had moved to Denver and.
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Kyle Keefe
Moved to seek to employment? Yeah.
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Tom Green
With without a. Yeah. And you're on your own. There's nobody who's got you by the hand saying, here's what you need to do, or here, I'll introduce you to somebody.
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Kyle Keefe
My parents handed me a discover card with a $500 limit, and they said, go get them. And I was living with my buddy, who had five roommates in a tent in the living room.
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Kyle Keefe
And not all of them. You were in the tent?
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Kyle Keefe
I was in the tent, a single man tent. And I you know, it was probably for for 11 days, but it was during the time period that I would go over to McNichols arena on my ten speed bicycle, a white Peugeot.
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Kyle Keefe
Oh, very fast.
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Kyle Keefe
Very nice bike you did there fast. And I would right over there. And I would buy these pizzas, you know, and I would I would buy a Domino's pizza on my credit card, and I would go up to McNichols and Gina Salado, who I still know very well, is that the front desk. And I would hand her a pizza with my resume under it and I'd say, could you please give this to Paul Anders?
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Kyle Keefe
Could you please give this to Lou person? That day by day I would do this, you know? And you got it. You can imagine you're writing on that.
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Kyle Keefe
Tell me. But the pizzas and bikes. Yeah. It's tricky. Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
I did that for 13 straight days. Until one day, a new person that called me, you know, on the rotary phone. So I think roommate and it's got.
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Kyle Keefe
To be there. Yeah. Hello.
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Kyle Keefe
And he's like, look, I either have to hire you or have you arrested. And I got an internship there, and the very first video I ever did was Adam Foot.
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Kyle Keefe
Now I got to kind of lose. Lose. Yeah.
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Tom Green
So you you edited that together to play on the.
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Kyle Keefe
On the.
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Kyle Keefe
Diamond vision. It used to be called.
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Tom Green
That was terrible. Yeah. I remember the screens at McNichols when they finally went to video. Where.
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Kyle Keefe
Look, it was light. Bright. Yeah.
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Tom Green
It was light bright at best. So, Lou, I've had this discussion with, with some other people in Colorado broadcasting. Drew Goodman I mean, he's just one of those guys that like most people, didn't get to know, but anybody in Denver sports, anybody in Denver television knew Lou. And he was he was the guy. Like, you could make a movie about that character that he was.
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Tom Green
He was a.
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Kyle Keefe
Father figure to me. Yeah. I mean, he would have.
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Kyle Keefe
Very funny or cruelly funny man. I mean.
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Kyle Keefe
But Lou also grew up and, you know, this covering the nuggets and the, you know, the 80s is, you know, TV trucks were a little different. Those guys were doing games, but they were also, you know.
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Kyle Keefe
Partying. Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
As they were doing games. Right. So they the it was just a different era. And then Lou kind of just still hung.
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Kyle Keefe
On to that as he, as he got.
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Kyle Keefe
Older. But he was such a cool cat like he was you know, he was walk slower than everybody else. You know, he's got a real low voice.
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Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
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Kyle Keefe
Lou. And he wasn't afraid to share how he felt about you either.
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Tom Green
No, no. He he'd let you know. Yeah. How he felt about.
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Kyle Keefe
You and him. Yeah. Heard you helped them. Yeah.
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Tom Green
I always said the greatest break I ever got is I got my first job at what was then in New Haven, Connecticut. But they gave me, to come and go the key to the back door. And so once I had the key to the back door, I was able to learn how to do everything. After everyone left after the 11:00 news, I would tinker, learn how to direct, learn how to edit, learn how to operate the graphics, learn how to.
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Tom Green
Because I always thought, you know, I don't think I've got enough moxie to get out in front of the camera and do what I really want to do. I'm watching pros now, and there's a big gap between me and them, but once I got in the back door, I figured, I want to be in the business, but I want to, you know, I'll do whatever it takes for you.
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Tom Green
You're in the door, which is the hardest part of the business, right? So now how does it what what's the next step to get in front of a camera?
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Kyle Keefe
I started putting myself on diamond Vision, so I would have to edit these videos and I would. I had figured out that rather than just putting together a mike Keane video or, Santa Sosa Lynch video, I would introduce it, not with permission.
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Tom Green
Make yourself the host. The in-game host is me.
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Kyle Keefe
And there wasn't.
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Kyle Keefe
That back then. Nobody did that right? So I just started, you know, I'm sure it was horrible. I'd love to find them, but I'm sure it was like, why?
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Kyle Keefe
You know, I.
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Kyle Keefe
Can't even start that way, but hi, I'm Kyle Keefe, and this is a video about Santa Rosa Lynch. Well, it just kind of happened and nobody would say anything. So I was like, maybe I'll push it a little bit further. Right? You know, I'll tag it at the end and I, I, and I sort of just I created a character.
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Tom Green
And no one, it's hard to imagine now with the highly professional nature of sports in everywhere but in Colorado and our franchises back then, it was probably nobody was watching. I mean, not I don't mean the viewers, the people in this in the arena. Right. But there was no executive gone.
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Kyle Keefe
No. Who okayed know him. Well.
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Kyle Keefe
If you remember, back in those days, it was Charlie Lyons and Alan Robinson and Tim Lee Wicky, you know, we went we had quite a few, you know, leaders. And so there was a if you were just already in there sort of doing it, it was okay. And as long as the phone never rang from Pierre, you were good.
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Kyle Keefe
So if you, if you ever got that phone call and I'll tell you, I got to bring this up at McNichols. The only way you could get Ahold of somebody is by getting on the loudspeaker and saying, I remember Johnny Martin. Oh, I still remember his extensive. But Johnny Martino would always say, Kyle Keefe, please dial John Martino at 605.
00:15:28:18 - 00:15:31:03
Kyle Keefe
So you'd pick up your phone. It was only an inside line thing.
00:15:31:09 - 00:15:32:26
Kyle Keefe
You know, at my desk is a is a.
00:15:33:02 - 00:15:36:04
Kyle Keefe
Closet. No, it was a cardboard box. Yeah.
00:15:36:04 - 00:15:54:26
Kyle Keefe
That's all I had. You know, I was we was four of us in an office from you to me. But anyway, it was, you know, it was just a tight knit community. And we had the nuggets in the archives. Of course, the Avs won the cup in 96, but right away it was it was such a we probably had 40 employees and it was just such a great way to sort of be brought up by so many.
00:15:54:26 - 00:15:57:29
Kyle Keefe
Charlotte Graham, you know, it was just Lisa Johnson.
00:15:57:29 - 00:15:58:16
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:58:16 - 00:16:03:20
Tom Green
But but it's knowing you now as being one of the faces of avalanche television.
00:16:03:20 - 00:16:04:05
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:16:04:08 - 00:16:24:24
Tom Green
Did you know anything about hockey when they came to town? Now your job like. Like, when I did the radio show with Doug Moe, we were doing that show. We were born on the fan because the fan had the nugget contract, and that meant we'd have to get the. We'd got the avalanche contract. So Doug had to try to learn hockey or at least put up with my explanations of hockey.
00:16:24:26 - 00:16:29:06
Tom Green
So you were zero on hockey? Well, I loved hockey. I mean, what, just as a fan of.
00:16:29:06 - 00:16:43:18
Kyle Keefe
Yeah. And I, you know, I played for a little bit. I was horrible, you know, it was one of those things. But I love Mario Lemieux I loved, you know, the sport of hockey. But I had no intention of working for a hockey team, you know. Right I would yeah I wanted to work for him. You know, with John Elway.
00:16:43:18 - 00:17:01:12
Kyle Keefe
I want to do it. You know Craig Morton I wanted the Broncos were my team right. And from Wyoming it's. But no when when it sort of the opportunity came about I became an avalanche. I mean how do you not I think everybody felt the same way in 96. Immediately I was watching I was an intern, so I was watching the games at Don's Mix drinks.
00:17:01:12 - 00:17:04:10
Kyle Keefe
Dinner, that is. Oh, yeah, legendary.
00:17:04:12 - 00:17:05:23
Tom Green
Legendary Sixth Avenue.
00:17:05:26 - 00:17:08:21
Kyle Keefe
And I had a burger there last night. But you know.
00:17:08:21 - 00:17:28:24
Kyle Keefe
That that just started the roll. And, you know, I got fired. I got hired August 8th, 1996. I was an intern for a full, whatever, eight months. But that just started the roll. And then as as it went on, I started doing more jumbotron stuff, and I became the director of game operations. And, you know, we made it snow and in Pepsi Center.
00:17:28:24 - 00:17:35:01
Kyle Keefe
And that lasted about 16 games for Dan Craig came in and said, you know, you're ruining the ice. These are bubbles.
00:17:35:03 - 00:17:36:13
Kyle Keefe
You know, the guys are.
00:17:36:15 - 00:17:38:16
Kyle Keefe
In a bubble bath out here. Stop doing that.
00:17:38:18 - 00:17:43:26
Tom Green
I love these stories, though, because you think of, you know, and I've described this a couple times on this.
00:17:43:26 - 00:17:45:23
Kyle Keefe
Show how fate.
00:17:45:25 - 00:18:12:28
Tom Green
Grabs you. Like, it's not like I decided to do this and I made myself into that. And whatever that hockey team found you and made you into what you are, and you think about all those amazing confluences in your life when you meet your wife and all those things that you know could have gone another way for the difference of a minute or a second or a day or a week, and that hockey team finding you that major in your life.
00:18:12:29 - 00:18:33:20
Kyle Keefe
I love to think of it that way, Tom, but I think I agree with you on that. But I will just take it to Dana. Thank God Dana found me. Yeah, right. Or thank God I found her, you know, because there are there you need certain people, whether it's work or people in your life. And you've been that way for me in a lot of aspects and in the from the broadcasting standpoint.
00:18:33:20 - 00:18:37:18
Kyle Keefe
But if I don't find Dana, I mean, it's who knows?
00:18:37:19 - 00:18:39:12
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, it's hard to it's hard to. Yeah.
00:18:39:14 - 00:18:44:26
Tom Green
Yeah. Whenever you forecast your life without certain people know it's it's not a good forecast.
00:18:44:26 - 00:18:45:06
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:18:45:09 - 00:19:00:24
Kyle Keefe
And the breaks that I had, one of my best friends still to this day, Sully Dan Sullivan I think you've played golf with him a couple times, but you know, he he was to do he'd made a great business. He was, a mortgage broker and, you know, had all this money. And he housed me for five years.
00:19:00:24 - 00:19:13:12
Kyle Keefe
You know, I didn't make any money for eight months. And then the first time that they paid me, they said, we're going to hire you. And they paid me $14,100. And I was like, what am I going to do with all this money?
00:19:13:15 - 00:19:15:02
Tom Green
Like, I got 100 right on.
00:19:15:02 - 00:19:15:19
Kyle Keefe
Top of I.
00:19:15:19 - 00:19:21:25
Kyle Keefe
Forgot, Tom. I forgot that they they divide that up by 26 week and tax.
00:19:21:27 - 00:19:22:14
Kyle Keefe
And so when you're.
00:19:22:14 - 00:19:25:17
Kyle Keefe
Getting a paycheck for $217, you know, so I would just give my.
00:19:25:19 - 00:19:27:19
Kyle Keefe
My check to him. Yeah.
00:19:27:22 - 00:19:41:24
Kyle Keefe
And he would buy my food and drive me around and at us. So there's so many things that have have to happen in order for things to eventually turn out the way they are. Just the young man that came in here, Mark. Mark that's, you know, he's calling games for, you know, a junior hockey team.
00:19:41:24 - 00:19:44:03
Kyle Keefe
And but you can cyclone I know but he's.
00:19:44:03 - 00:19:50:18
Kyle Keefe
Got the spirit right. I can tell already that he's got the drive and he's got the spirit. And he's doing the little things and the things that suck to do.
00:19:50:20 - 00:19:51:07
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:19:51:09 - 00:19:52:15
Kyle Keefe
But he'll get there.
00:19:52:17 - 00:20:03:05
Tom Green
Well, there's that part of your career, at least if you are in your career, the career you've chosen or the career he wanted where you'd say, you know, I'm glad you guys are paying me because I'd have done it for nothing.
00:20:03:12 - 00:20:03:25
Kyle Keefe
You're right.
00:20:03:25 - 00:20:17:08
Tom Green
For a long time, I just like being in the room in the mix, you know? And and you always embrace that. And you were always, I think looking north, like, next. More. Let's keep going. There's more here.
00:20:17:11 - 00:20:25:03
Kyle Keefe
And that's why I'm blessed. Time to be working with those guys, those, you know, Johnny Liles and John Mitchell and Johnny and Mike earlier with them.
00:20:25:05 - 00:20:27:22
Kyle Keefe
But it's just you I, I.
00:20:27:25 - 00:20:49:29
Kyle Keefe
Sometimes I watch broadcast and I can see that there's just a little bit of a struggle, you know, whether it's, you know, maybe the relationship isn't maybe it's just strictly work. Right. And I'm not talking to sports in anything. And you can see it, you know, sometimes you like these two that the dynamic isn't there. Yeah. And so I just feel really blessed, like you and Kim just had such a great sort of on air presence.
00:20:49:29 - 00:20:51:16
Tom Green
So we don't get together on the show in a couple.
00:20:51:16 - 00:20:53:26
Kyle Keefe
Oh you are. Yeah. I'm going to watch out I.
00:20:54:00 - 00:21:12:02
Tom Green
Well I like I had Benjamin on and like Benjamin Kim you not easy to interview people that you really already know so well. Like I already know the answers to a lot of the questions, but I, I like that you get to share it with people. Yeah. I think people are fascinated by some of the people that they only see in the on the screen.
00:21:12:02 - 00:21:13:26
Tom Green
And is he really like that?
00:21:13:26 - 00:21:14:03
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:21:14:03 - 00:21:25:06
Tom Green
And you've been great at pulling back the veil. That's been one thing for you. You've never, I, I don't think anybody ever watches you and think he's probably not like that. They go, oh, man, he must be even worse than that at home.
00:21:25:06 - 00:21:36:28
Kyle Keefe
Right. And you know what? It's funny because sometimes Dana will be out with friends or whatever, and she'll say, someone told me that you were eating a three day old chicken sandwich. Is that true?
00:21:37:01 - 00:21:39:03
Tom Green
Well, Miles put it in my mouth. Right. So.
00:21:39:04 - 00:21:57:16
Kyle Keefe
But, you know, anything goes at the key. We always have music playing, you know, it's always country music. It's, you know, 12 hours a day. I've got a dog that doesn't move. You know, we're very we're very friendly and open our. You know, if it's summer, our house is always open. We, you know, we're just that's who we are.
00:21:57:16 - 00:21:59:13
Kyle Keefe
And I think that that translates.
00:21:59:13 - 00:22:17:12
Tom Green
You know, if social media two, you love sharing a lot of that. You are not someone who I'm a little more defensive about my personal life on social media. Just it's not about people I'm afraid to show. It's like there's some other people out there that I don't need to. Yeah, to share with or hear from or debate or anything.
00:22:17:12 - 00:22:37:10
Kyle Keefe
There's really three levels of social media I'm going to make it for, for this conversation. There's you, which is very professional and witty and funny. Then I think there's me that's probably a little too risque that I know. Right? Then there's Benny, who in his post career has, you know, has really taken a liking to just saying whatever you want.
00:22:37:11 - 00:22:39:09
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, I love just firing. Yeah.
00:22:39:09 - 00:22:42:02
Kyle Keefe
And then there's Zach.
00:22:42:04 - 00:22:43:22
Kyle Keefe
216 tweet today.
00:22:43:22 - 00:22:46:25
Kyle Keefe
Oversharing mean I love following him.
00:22:46:25 - 00:23:06:18
Kyle Keefe
But I'm like, is this is this from last week? No this from this morning. But you know, it's a great way to sort of say how you what you think and how you feel, you know, between the boys a little bit. But I, I tend to gravitate more towards Instagram than I do Twitter. I, I'm more careful on Twitter than Instagram and TikTok.
00:23:06:21 - 00:23:09:10
Kyle Keefe
I love that stuff. I'm in. You know, I'm in my fifth year.
00:23:09:11 - 00:23:10:12
Tom Green
You love lip sync.
00:23:10:12 - 00:23:11:01
Kyle Keefe
Oh, I love.
00:23:11:01 - 00:23:12:20
Tom Green
Dancing and putting on a.
00:23:12:20 - 00:23:14:18
Kyle Keefe
Wig and, well, you and I did a video.
00:23:14:18 - 00:23:18:00
Kyle Keefe
I wish they would show the video that you me and picked it up at your.
00:23:18:02 - 00:23:19:08
Kyle Keefe
Yes, at your place.
00:23:19:08 - 00:23:21:27
Tom Green
Yeah. Well, I wasn't in the video.
00:23:22:00 - 00:23:22:14
Kyle Keefe
You were.
00:23:22:14 - 00:23:49:25
Tom Green
That's right, that's true. I did a cameo. Did a cameo relationships or something? I think you're extraordinary. Yet you really take people to heart. And that includes viewers. That includes strangers. You're terrific with people. But let's go through some of these, relationships. And I want to start with Peter McNabb, because I think Peter McNabb became the guy that the world of Colorado learned hockey from, and that includes people working on the broadcast.
00:23:49:27 - 00:23:54:04
Kyle Keefe
He was the glue,
00:23:54:07 - 00:24:01:21
Tom Green
Of the broadcast. He was always the guy who knew the answer to everything. He would prepare you for everything. He was an extraordinary man.
00:24:01:21 - 00:24:26:00
Kyle Keefe
He. I will say this about Peter. It wasn't overnight that you can get a real, genuine relationship with someone like Peter. He's, you know, he's very, you know, bubbly and all that on the outside. And nobody knows more about hockey than Peter McNabb. But it took years for for Peter and I to sort of really get to that bond.
00:24:26:00 - 00:24:46:19
Kyle Keefe
Right. And once we did just the sharing of, of, you know, life with kids and, you know, a family. And then ultimately, you know, when he got sick was we were at that point to where Peter would call me on certain days out of the blue. Hey, big guy, how you doing? I know, and I knew it.
00:24:46:25 - 00:25:13:17
Kyle Keefe
I knew that we weren't just going to talk. I knew that there was a reason he was calling me, and he would vent about this or that or whatever. And then, you know, he got into doing his treatment and, I mean, the some of the conversations I had with him when he went through that were, I mean, I can barely talk about it now just because he was so open and so, so strong and so scared and of what was to come and, you know, all that stuff.
00:25:13:17 - 00:25:48:18
Kyle Keefe
And he always had some sort of way of giving me advice in his struggle. So there were times where he would be talking about himself, and then he would give me advice, and I would I would genuinely would take that advice. And, Pete was just, he's he's one of a kind. And I think that, you know, as you go through the NHL and talk to people that knew him really well during his playing days, and certainly here in Denver, he it you can't replace a guy like Peter McNabb on the broadcast in your friend circles.
00:25:48:20 - 00:25:54:16
Kyle Keefe
I think about him all the time. I think of how Peter would do this or how to do that, and he had the greatest stories. Tom.
00:25:54:18 - 00:26:12:26
Tom Green
He reminds me of my uncle Bob because my uncle Bob was one of those guys who would be doing you a favor, and at the end, he would act like you'd done him a favor. Yeah. And he's just, like, so generous with their time and their spirit and all that. And he, you know, I saw him play hockey, not a do.
00:26:12:26 - 00:26:28:10
Tom Green
But I saw him as a pro. Is terrific NHL player 363 goals and but he I thought he had as much to do with hockey's popularity. Not as much as the team winning the cup, but as far as it being popular on television because he made it, made it work.
00:26:28:13 - 00:26:30:10
Kyle Keefe
There's also the players perspective.
00:26:30:10 - 00:26:31:13
Kyle Keefe
A Peter yeah, he.
00:26:31:13 - 00:26:49:19
Kyle Keefe
Would literally sit down with one guy and he can I mean, he played in the league. He's got 800 whatever points. Like it's different for me to go sit next to yeah player Ray than it is Pete because it just is. But all the players tell the same story. I hear it all the time when you just bring up Pete's name and it's hilarious.
00:26:49:26 - 00:27:04:28
Kyle Keefe
Pete would carry this old briefcase with whole, you know, you can imagine like, trains, planes and automobiles. You know, the briefcase that he carries around. Pete had that, and he would get in a seat on the plane and, you know, it opened it up and who knows what was in there. I mean, it was just files and it just.
00:27:04:28 - 00:27:06:26
Kyle Keefe
Was weird notes. It was this weird.
00:27:07:03 - 00:27:14:06
Kyle Keefe
Anyway, the same story that everybody tells us that when Pete got on the plane, he would open the the over.
00:27:14:08 - 00:27:15:16
Kyle Keefe
And there was the oh, yeah.
00:27:15:16 - 00:27:20:00
Kyle Keefe
There's snacks up there. And Pete would just take the sandwiches, all of them relatable.
00:27:20:03 - 00:27:23:28
Kyle Keefe
I mean, and the players are behind you watching. I mean, they grab.
00:27:23:28 - 00:27:26:16
Kyle Keefe
A PB and J if you are one that Pete would fill up that brief.
00:27:26:16 - 00:27:26:26
Kyle Keefe
Every.
00:27:26:27 - 00:27:29:06
Tom Green
Day for food. Food carriage.
00:27:29:06 - 00:27:29:19
Kyle Keefe
Right.
00:27:29:27 - 00:27:46:00
Tom Green
You mentioned players. I don't think you've been closer to any players than you are with Gabe Landeskog. You guys have been friends and, it's been a, an interesting relationship when you consider what you do for a living and what he does for a living. But but you guys have or like this.
00:27:46:01 - 00:28:08:05
Kyle Keefe
Another blast, right. And like, who to thought that he would be, you know, just being able to be so approachable and and to be so likable. And from the day that he got here, he was sort of an open book. You talk about an open book. And Gabe was just so, approachable and and how he sort of addressed the media.
00:28:08:05 - 00:28:21:12
Kyle Keefe
And here we are at the, you know, when we won the Stanley Cup and in 2022. And I know how much that meant to Gabe and, you know, sort of everything that he had been through up to that point. And he's running on pure adrenaline right there. But
00:28:21:14 - 00:28:24:00
Tom Green
Yeah, you wouldn't see the ice for three years after that.
00:28:24:01 - 00:28:25:08
Kyle Keefe
You know.
00:28:25:10 - 00:28:47:00
Kyle Keefe
He's just he's just the salt of the earth any. And you'd never know that Gabe was a professional athlete if he didn't tell you. I mean, he takes the time to listen to people and to pick up the phone and to thank you. And, he's just he's been the. I think he he might be as important to this organization as Joe.
00:28:47:03 - 00:29:08:02
Kyle Keefe
I mean, I know Joe was the captain and hall of Famer, but going through what they went through in 20 1516 with Betsy coming on and having 48 points, and Gabe was there every single post game to take questions. They were getting hammered six one, you know, seven nothing. They lost one game in Montreal. I think it was ten zero games there.
00:29:08:03 - 00:29:26:16
Kyle Keefe
Right. And so you appreciate all of the the fight through that. And Melissa and his three little kids think they're just they're just really good people. And I don't know how I don't know how many reporters could I be genuinely interested to hear how many guys there are out there? Did you ever run into anyone that was like.
00:29:26:19 - 00:29:32:19
Tom Green
No, he's so unique. I mean, especially when you consider what was he, 19 when he was made captain? I mean.
00:29:32:21 - 00:29:34:24
Kyle Keefe
That's that's crazy. Yeah. You know.
00:29:34:24 - 00:29:53:24
Tom Green
And but he and you later learned what they knew when they made him captain, that he was made of that stuff, that he had that unique DNA. And I always marvel, you know, I think that this on the surface, you can see one thing is that is the young man from Sweden who speaks English better than.
00:29:53:27 - 00:30:08:00
Kyle Keefe
He called me. He called me one day and he said, hey, I need to talk with you. And I was like, well, that's a weird way to start a conversation. He said, actually, I'm going to call you back in ten minutes. I am immediately over to Dana. I'm like, oh my God. I'm like going through my tweets.
00:30:08:00 - 00:30:09:17
Kyle Keefe
I'm like, what did I say?
00:30:09:20 - 00:30:28:16
Kyle Keefe
Anyway, he calls me back and he's like, you're on speakerphone and Melissa is here. And Gabe asked me to officiate their wedding. Yeah. And you know, I'm blown away. I think I was probably in tears. I can't wait that it not. But the good part about that was I got to sit down with each one of them for, you know, 2 or 3 hours and just talk about how and what who, where, why?
00:30:28:21 - 00:30:35:02
Kyle Keefe
Because I wanted this to be. He said, I want you to do the wedding your your way. Yeah. You know, I don't want you to get up there and read a sermon and.
00:30:35:05 - 00:30:37:01
Kyle Keefe
You know, no.
00:30:37:04 - 00:30:50:20
Kyle Keefe
None of that stuff. So and you can imagine the people that are at this beautiful wedding at Pelican Hill. Yeah, I'm looking out and, you know, I do TV for a living, so I'm not I'm not nervous to, like, look at a camera, but I'm looking out at the people that are there, and I'm treasure.
00:30:50:27 - 00:30:52:15
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, yeah. Well, you you.
00:30:52:15 - 00:30:55:14
Tom Green
Always love to feel pressure. You're great at feeling pressure.
00:30:55:14 - 00:31:19:16
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, I feel some right now. My bowels. But, you know, I got to sit down and really get to know Melissa and really get to know Gabe and the the who and the how and all that. And it was just a neat experience. And there's. So they were so, you know gracious with me and the parents and that was a that was a big moment for me that this kind of showed me that he's, he's more human than he is player.
00:31:19:17 - 00:31:22:19
Kyle Keefe
Right. He's just a normal stud.
00:31:22:22 - 00:31:25:26
Tom Green
Before we get to some of the nonsense, your.
00:31:25:26 - 00:31:27:25
Kyle Keefe
Family life, we.
00:31:27:25 - 00:31:35:14
Tom Green
Talked about Dana briefly, but, Dana and Quincy, Steve your dog, of course, but,
00:31:35:16 - 00:31:38:10
Kyle Keefe
It you.
00:31:38:12 - 00:31:47:03
Tom Green
It's paramount to you. And it's so interesting to see because you are so invested in hockey. But you are it's not even close when you compare the two families.
00:31:47:03 - 00:32:01:23
Kyle Keefe
First, it's, you know, I've never made any any secrets that, you know, Quincy's adopted. Like Dana, Dana and I went through three in vitro. We tried I wanted to have six kids. You know, I was everything I, I wanted to have these little blond haired.
00:32:01:23 - 00:32:03:10
Kyle Keefe
Blue bird, you know.
00:32:03:13 - 00:32:24:08
Kyle Keefe
And we tried to have kids, through in vitro. And it didn't work. We ended up doing is giving her breast cancer, and then she's going through breast cancer. And I'm thinking myself, well, this took a turn in a hurry in vitro. Yes. You end up getting estrogen positive breast cancer, which, you know, you're pumping estrogen into someone's body, just, you know, three times or two and a half, whatever.
00:32:24:08 - 00:32:42:06
Kyle Keefe
It ended up being. But it it's it's dangerous. It's a if you're pumping drugs anyway, she gets breast cancer after all that she goes through this and I you know, I remember days her and I talking just we're not going through this life without having a child. We went through the whole adoption process and yeah, you know this one.
00:32:42:09 - 00:33:00:10
Kyle Keefe
They pick you and you pick them. It has to be the right situation. Right? Which it was wonderful, was a wonderful thing. Anyway, we end up having Quincy and you know, we cut the cord and we were there and we knew the girl for, you know, three months prior to her having the child. And it's been a very open relationship with this is who your birth mother is.
00:33:00:10 - 00:33:01:02
Kyle Keefe
This is, you know.
00:33:01:04 - 00:33:01:27
Tom Green
Quincy is known for.
00:33:02:01 - 00:33:11:14
Kyle Keefe
She's known from day one. We would read books, children books to her about being adopted. So there's just no hidden secrets. There's no agenda. And she has I think she's flourished from that, I really do.
00:33:11:14 - 00:33:13:06
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:33:13:08 - 00:33:17:25
Kyle Keefe
But I love this little girl. She is. She's red. I mean, she's redhead.
00:33:17:27 - 00:33:18:07
Kyle Keefe
And that.
00:33:18:07 - 00:33:20:12
Kyle Keefe
Is funny. You go to Safeway, I'll see Quincy.
00:33:20:14 - 00:33:22:07
Kyle Keefe
What? Where'd you get your your hair?
00:33:22:07 - 00:33:29:06
Kyle Keefe
From your mom. Your dad? She's like, I'm adopted, but she's also like, she makes a great playing softball. She reminds you I'm adopted.
00:33:29:08 - 00:33:30:01
Tom Green
She's a slugger.
00:33:30:01 - 00:33:30:23
Kyle Keefe
Don't be taking.
00:33:30:23 - 00:33:31:16
Kyle Keefe
Credit for this.
00:33:31:20 - 00:33:32:16
Tom Green
She's a very good source.
00:33:32:17 - 00:33:34:09
Kyle Keefe
I love home life. Yeah.
00:33:34:09 - 00:33:36:03
Kyle Keefe
I love being there at my house.
00:33:36:03 - 00:33:38:27
Tom Green
I like your Christmas lights have been up since 1st July.
00:33:38:27 - 00:33:41:04
Kyle Keefe
July 1st. I put them up. I always do it right after.
00:33:41:04 - 00:33:43:24
Kyle Keefe
The 4th of July. Oh, there it is. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
00:33:43:24 - 00:33:50:20
Kyle Keefe
I take it very seriously. We live in a cul de sac, so I want it to be, you know, everybody in the in the cul de sac is.
00:33:50:22 - 00:33:53:29
Tom Green
Is knows Christmas is. It's somewhere within eight months of now.
00:33:53:29 - 00:33:55:07
Kyle Keefe
Yeah. Everyone's like, oh yeah.
00:33:55:07 - 00:33:58:04
Kyle Keefe
It's like Labor Day must right be right around the corner because Kyle's got his.
00:33:58:04 - 00:34:00:09
Tom Green
And you take him down for three weeks and.
00:34:00:11 - 00:34:02:00
Kyle Keefe
It's I just I.
00:34:02:01 - 00:34:17:00
Kyle Keefe
Just love, you know. And you, you're very close with our family. You know how it goes. And we love coming over to your house. It feels like a home, right? Your house feels like a home. And it's. You need that stability in a crazy, sort of chaotic world that we live in, traveling and late nights and all that sort of stuff.
00:34:17:00 - 00:34:22:01
Kyle Keefe
But yeah, I mean, so blessed for what I've landed.
00:34:22:04 - 00:34:43:18
Tom Green
So let's move to the nonsense, because the people you work with and you have you have a lot of people you work with, you know, from Mosher and Connor McGehee and all the people, you know, the Ken Klee's and John Styles and these and Johnny Mitchell's. But it's the three knuckleheads. It's you and Mark Wright Croft and John Michaels.
00:34:43:26 - 00:34:46:17
Tom Green
When you get together. It is.
00:34:46:19 - 00:34:48:04
Kyle Keefe
Nonsense.
00:34:48:07 - 00:34:52:06
Tom Green
That might actually teach you something about hockey, maybe.
00:34:52:08 - 00:34:52:25
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:34:52:25 - 00:34:54:17
Kyle Keefe
And it's.
00:34:55:10 - 00:35:05:26
Kyle Keefe
Let's just start with Riker, because that's really where it started. Because we did go. I went Brian and Lamb and Curtis decision. And you can, you know, names. And at one point it was Jerome Juranovic.
00:35:05:26 - 00:35:06:07
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:35:06:07 - 00:35:22:27
Kyle Keefe
Way back in the days. But then when Ryker came in, it, he didn't know what he was doing. Right. And I you know, I barely knew what I was doing and it sort of just happened. Right. And we sort of just started goofing up and then, you know, there was mistakes. And of course, the infamous penis McNabb. Yeah.
00:35:22:28 - 00:35:23:20
Kyle Keefe
Thing happened.
00:35:23:25 - 00:35:26:00
Tom Green
You might want to explain that without.
00:35:26:02 - 00:35:27:28
Kyle Keefe
Right belaboring it. Right.
00:35:28:01 - 00:35:32:09
Kyle Keefe
Well, I meant to say Peter will join us and we just last post game show.
00:35:32:09 - 00:35:33:17
Kyle Keefe
Post game show. Yeah, yeah.
00:35:33:23 - 00:35:54:18
Kyle Keefe
And, it was a Tuesday night. It was for 1130. Nobody's watching. Right. And instead of saying, Peter will join us, I said, penis, but, well, Ryker ruined it. From then on, I had to go through all the highlights and he is on the ground. I think there was literally pee coming down his leg and the cameramen are on the ground and the producers in my ear saying, you're like, you're you're dead.
00:35:54:22 - 00:35:59:16
Kyle Keefe
You're going to get fired. This is it. And we just laughed. And, you know, it kind of went viral on this and that.
00:35:59:16 - 00:36:02:12
Kyle Keefe
Kind of yeah, kind of kind of went viral. Yeah.
00:36:02:14 - 00:36:21:28
Kyle Keefe
But we, you know, we sort of embraced it after that and said, you know what? We talk for three hours a night. We're we're not going to be perfect. We're going to make more screw ups. Let's just do it that way. And so we did and Johnny got brought in and he's got such a good personality. These were two of my favorite guys by the way to talk to in the locker room.
00:36:21:28 - 00:36:44:21
Kyle Keefe
Right. The first time I met Ryker I had him clean in my teeth. Like we went to the dentist and he cleaned my teeth. Johnny laughs. And I made pasta. And, you know, it's it's it's organic. It's it's it's natural. It's fun. We have the same sort of, you know, likings and things. And these guys are just, they're, they're great dudes before they're, you know, before they're hockey players.
00:36:44:22 - 00:36:44:26
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:36:44:26 - 00:36:46:13
Kyle Keefe
Mickey I mean, just adapt.
00:36:46:16 - 00:36:49:21
Tom Green
Did you ever get to tone it down? Did you ever get the one boss with the.
00:36:49:21 - 00:36:51:15
Kyle Keefe
Yeah a little rigid saying.
00:36:51:15 - 00:37:02:15
Kyle Keefe
Yeah. And I won't say the name, but it was also met with a with a little bit of I don't want to change anything, but you know.
00:37:02:17 - 00:37:05:06
Tom Green
Was it from the hockey side or the podcast. No.
00:37:05:08 - 00:37:14:09
Kyle Keefe
There was only one hockey thing. It was from the broadcast side. But let me just change gears real quick because I did get a phone call from Pierre a little while, and I loved Pierre Lacroix.
00:37:14:09 - 00:37:17:23
Tom Green
You know, but if you get a phone call from Pierre, you stand at attention during.
00:37:17:23 - 00:37:28:21
Kyle Keefe
A game. Red phone, because I was in between the penalty boxes and the red phone is a direct line to Pierre, and it rarely rings.
00:37:28:22 - 00:37:29:16
Tom Green
Sure.
00:37:29:18 - 00:37:30:13
Kyle Keefe
Well, we had.
00:37:30:13 - 00:37:33:15
Kyle Keefe
Chris had just been traded and.
00:37:33:17 - 00:37:34:15
Kyle Keefe
Away away.
00:37:34:15 - 00:37:48:13
Kyle Keefe
To I believe it was the New York Rangers, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, he had said to me the day before, just make sure that Christopher is out of the open. Video. I said, no problem. You guys make sure he's out of there. Well, he was in it. He was in the video and I'm watching the video before the players take the ice.
00:37:48:13 - 00:37:51:23
Kyle Keefe
And I'm thinking to myself, I am. So before I get the word dad out.
00:37:51:23 - 00:37:52:06
Tom Green
That's your.
00:37:52:06 - 00:37:52:26
Kyle Keefe
Fault.
00:37:52:29 - 00:37:54:03
Kyle Keefe
Yeah. I was directing the games.
00:37:54:05 - 00:37:57:16
Kyle Keefe
Oh, that time you're still directing? Yeah. Not on the air. Okay. And before I.
00:37:57:16 - 00:37:59:27
Kyle Keefe
Could say, I'm so. Dad, it was. I am so.
00:37:59:27 - 00:38:02:28
Kyle Keefe
Purring like, oh my God, I know who it is.
00:38:02:28 - 00:38:08:11
Kyle Keefe
And I couldn't understand a word. It was all, you know, he was so mad. It was mostly French-Canadian with some.
00:38:08:14 - 00:38:10:11
Kyle Keefe
Time or not. Yeah.
00:38:10:13 - 00:38:33:00
Kyle Keefe
So anyway, I had to go into his office the next day and I was shivering and shaking, and it was a very intense, loud conversation that we had. And I'm bawling. I mean, I'm full on bawling my brains out. And at the end of it, he's like, I love you. I love you like a son. I just, I have so you know, all this and I am there's snot on his coat.
00:38:33:00 - 00:38:34:14
Kyle Keefe
I mean, I'm literally sobbing on his.
00:38:34:14 - 00:38:36:03
Kyle Keefe
Shoulder up here.
00:38:36:05 - 00:38:38:27
Tom Green
Never. What happened? Afraid of. I mean, they loved him, right?
00:38:38:27 - 00:38:40:19
Kyle Keefe
Right. Yeah.
00:38:40:19 - 00:39:03:22
Kyle Keefe
They made him a deal. He couldn't. Anyway, that's that's the relationship I had with him. So that was really my only run in with with hockey. I think Joe is terrific about the sort of nonsense with Riker and Lars. Yeah, he loves the fact that we're hard on the team when we have to respectfully harp. You know, if somebody screws up, do that call, you know, explain why you're saying that.
00:39:03:24 - 00:39:11:07
Kyle Keefe
But he also loves the shenanigans. He also loves that we're, you know, being free birds and kind of having fun, too, because normally there's 82.
00:39:11:07 - 00:39:12:17
Kyle Keefe
Games, right? Who wants.
00:39:12:17 - 00:39:14:13
Kyle Keefe
To just watch the same shit.
00:39:14:15 - 00:39:16:04
Kyle Keefe
Over and over? So it's like.
00:39:16:07 - 00:39:22:06
Kyle Keefe
You know, I think there's a green light, a respectable green light. Push it, but not over the cliff.
00:39:22:06 - 00:39:32:24
Tom Green
Right. And, you know, you guys don't seem to invent trouble. You just wander into it. Yeah. Like I said, it's it's it's like having adolescent boys. Yeah. Run through your kids.
00:39:32:24 - 00:39:33:09
Kyle Keefe
Dad, I love.
00:39:33:09 - 00:39:34:14
Kyle Keefe
Them. No, Tom, they're just so.
00:39:34:14 - 00:39:35:07
Kyle Keefe
Oh, I know.
00:39:35:09 - 00:39:41:04
Tom Green
So now you guys are doing a podcast, and we have a clip from one of the shows that you guys have started.
00:39:41:04 - 00:39:59:21
Speaker 1
The oh 405 lockout. I played World championships. We were going to Austria. We had an exhibition game against Canada, I believe it was in Halifax. The girls singing the national anthem came out to sing the American national anthem. She messes up the words once.
00:39:59:24 - 00:40:03:00
Unknown
Sweetie, I know I can do what?
00:40:03:00 - 00:40:05:19
Speaker 1
Sorry.
00:40:05:22 - 00:40:31:15
Speaker 1
The embarrassment was so much that I almost blacked out for her. She messes it up a second time. Was so 20. Sorry. She goes, I'm sorry. And she. I have to get my words. And she ran back into the locker room. Good to get the words. She comes bombing back out through the Canada bench, jumps onto the carpet and the carpet flips and she bails on the ice.
00:40:31:21 - 00:40:46:26
Speaker 1
And this was like this was lockout. So it was like, you know what it was the lineups in this were right here. It looks like what I did last night when I had to poop my pants so bad I just left. Here we go, here we go. Oh, God. Oh, that's that is so I feel so bad for her.
00:40:46:29 - 00:40:56:29
Speaker 1
And the Canadian players are looking at us and we're looking at the Canadian players. I'm fucking sore. And we're like, I guess we I guess we play.
00:40:58:19 - 00:41:01:01
Kyle Keefe
Like I, I was but.
00:41:01:03 - 00:41:04:29
Speaker 3
I guess we play.
00:41:05:02 - 00:41:07:08
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:41:07:11 - 00:41:08:15
Tom Green
So so this.
00:41:08:15 - 00:41:09:20
Kyle Keefe
Is the.
00:41:09:22 - 00:41:12:17
Tom Green
The show and the puck around and part out.
00:41:12:17 - 00:41:13:22
Kyle Keefe
Puck around in part out. Yeah.
00:41:13:23 - 00:41:15:14
Tom Green
Available places where you get.
00:41:15:20 - 00:41:16:11
Kyle Keefe
Yeah I mean.
00:41:16:11 - 00:41:32:06
Kyle Keefe
I've been told I, you know, I'm a big I'm a big podcast listener too. When I, when I sort of walk around Apple and, Spotify and who are my guys? I'm it's blanking me. But my favorite podcast ever. The three guys.
00:41:32:06 - 00:41:33:11
Tom Green
The smart less smart.
00:41:33:13 - 00:41:37:05
Kyle Keefe
Less oh my God. And it's nothing that shows nothing.
00:41:37:05 - 00:41:37:26
Tom Green
Just talking about.
00:41:37:26 - 00:41:38:10
Kyle Keefe
It. I know.
00:41:38:15 - 00:41:54:28
Kyle Keefe
And I just think I just I find them all very funny and it's just it's really good humor. So I would say that this podcast is what it's supposed to be is 70% hockey, 30% whatever. And it's turned into 80% whatever, 20% hockey. And Riker is, you know, he's trying to he's trying to bring.
00:41:54:28 - 00:41:58:24
Kyle Keefe
Us he's the steadying hand. Yes. Yeah. That's true. Johnny and I are laughing about whatever.
00:41:58:24 - 00:41:59:27
Kyle Keefe
And he's like, did you see the goal.
00:41:59:27 - 00:42:02:26
Kyle Keefe
Of some goal the other night? We're like, yeah, whatever. Now tell me about.
00:42:02:26 - 00:42:07:27
Kyle Keefe
How you had diarrhea. And it's like, so it's we've only we're three episodes in. We'll see how it goes.
00:42:07:27 - 00:42:16:20
Tom Green
So but you guys spent all this time together already on broadcast. You seem to spend a lot of time together away from broadcasts, and now you're going to do this as well.
00:42:16:20 - 00:42:17:08
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:42:17:10 - 00:42:24:20
Tom Green
Is there a difference between like is it edgier? You're allowed to be edgier on the podcast than you are on altitude TV?
00:42:24:20 - 00:42:40:04
Kyle Keefe
Yes it is. I would say there are no guardrails on the podcast. Right. Which is scary. You know, we do so much together that there's pictures of us on our phones, which I have to stop Johnny every now and then, like, don't come on, don't really.
00:42:40:06 - 00:42:41:07
Kyle Keefe
Be really nice on that one.
00:42:41:08 - 00:42:50:11
Tom Green
Scene, the three episodes. And I don't think anyone is saying stop because I sometimes am blushing for one of you or the other when you go off and do these stories about.
00:42:50:12 - 00:42:51:28
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, life.
00:42:52:01 - 00:43:00:06
Kyle Keefe
But let me ask you this. It's all I think it's all situational to things that maybe happened in your life. Like I had to go to the grocery store, I had to go to target.
00:43:00:06 - 00:43:03:08
Kyle Keefe
Right. And have you heard that I've been to target?
00:43:03:09 - 00:43:11:28
Kyle Keefe
Okay, well, as I'm leaving, Dana says, hey, I need you to grab me some tampons, okay? And, that's a deal breaker for me. I, I, I said, Dana.
00:43:12:00 - 00:43:13:20
Kyle Keefe
I, I do milk.
00:43:13:20 - 00:43:29:02
Kyle Keefe
I do yarn, I do medicine, I don't do that. And I had to go and I ended when I, when I told the story in the podcast and Riker's blushing, he's like, should we be talking about this on this podcast of like really all the things that we've said, this is getting you, but but you're colonoscopy.
00:43:29:02 - 00:43:29:23
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, yeah story.
00:43:29:27 - 00:43:33:21
Tom Green
All this stuff goes out there and what you're saying is true. This is everyone's.
00:43:33:21 - 00:43:34:23
Kyle Keefe
Life, right?
00:43:34:25 - 00:43:38:07
Tom Green
Not everyone says it out loud or says it into a.
00:43:38:07 - 00:43:39:08
Kyle Keefe
Microphone, right?
00:43:39:14 - 00:43:42:02
Kyle Keefe
Do you love.
00:43:42:05 - 00:43:42:27
Kyle Keefe
The.
00:43:42:29 - 00:43:46:09
Kyle Keefe
I think that's part of it is the freedom to be you.
00:43:46:11 - 00:43:46:25
Kyle Keefe
Right.
00:43:46:25 - 00:43:51:13
Kyle Keefe
And I'm sure there's millions of people out there that just can't stand that they hate us or, you know, this.
00:43:51:20 - 00:44:13:16
Tom Green
Is they don't have to listen to a podcast. If I want to watch the hockey game, I'm going to have to endure. I don't like it. But you guys, I think you're great. But, like, that's what. So in newsrooms over the last few years, if you have some graphic video or something that's really dodgy to put on TV, you tend to either do the warning right.
00:44:13:16 - 00:44:34:10
Tom Green
This may be hard to watch, which usually brings people right up close to the TV 100%. But it also, you know, when you put something on TV, you're taking away the the person's choice to watch it or not. So you air to the side of caution. Whereas if you're putting it on something where people click on it, they've chosen to watch a good point, something like that.
00:44:34:10 - 00:44:37:16
Tom Green
So let's say you do whatever you want on your podcast.
00:44:37:17 - 00:44:38:24
Kyle Keefe
It, I think.
00:44:38:24 - 00:44:39:05
Kyle Keefe
Easy.
00:44:39:05 - 00:44:39:16
Tom Green
For me to.
00:44:39:16 - 00:44:41:00
Kyle Keefe
Say, yeah.
00:44:41:02 - 00:44:50:28
Kyle Keefe
We can make this is crazy, but I think we you're probably not as much as me. But early on on I was late to Twitter. I didn't get on to whatever.
00:44:51:00 - 00:44:52:19
Tom Green
So you made it what it is today. Nice.
00:44:52:20 - 00:45:00:03
Kyle Keefe
Thank you. But, you know, I know because I couldn't handle the I didn't want to read what people really thought of me.
00:45:00:06 - 00:45:03:14
Kyle Keefe
Hey. Yeah. Love was good. I didn't, you know.
00:45:03:14 - 00:45:06:18
Kyle Keefe
I wasn't really into that either. I just kind of wanted to do my thing, and then that was it.
00:45:06:18 - 00:45:08:12
Kyle Keefe
And that's how I like to do, right? Yeah.
00:45:08:14 - 00:45:30:25
Kyle Keefe
Well, there was this one kid who replied to something, and I didn't know if he was a kid. He could have been an adult. But he said, every time I see Kyle keeps face, I want to go on a baby punching spree. I'm pretty graphic and pretty serious, and it ruined me. It ruined me. So for six months I'm on classmates.com, I'm on maps.com tracking down phone.
00:45:30:25 - 00:45:43:16
Kyle Keefe
I'm just trying to figure out who this person is and ruin myself for six months. It turns out that this kid was a 12 year old who lived in Colorado Springs, and so I wasted all this time worried about what this. And it just goes to.
00:45:43:16 - 00:45:45:22
Kyle Keefe
Show you what? Yeah, it doesn't matter.
00:45:45:22 - 00:45:54:18
Kyle Keefe
It's just it's so silly. And so why don't you take that out and just like you just sell yourself to. I'm just going to be me. And that's who it is.
00:45:54:21 - 00:45:58:25
Tom Green
So. But negative feedback, I always say weighs about ten times. What? Positive feedback.
00:45:58:25 - 00:45:59:14
Kyle Keefe
Oh yeah.
00:45:59:16 - 00:46:07:26
Tom Green
I mean, you you wear it and you think about it and you I think, I'm a somewhat sensitive person. You are a.
00:46:07:26 - 00:46:09:05
Kyle Keefe
Very, very sensitive.
00:46:09:06 - 00:46:15:21
Kyle Keefe
I can tell you use I said of Instagram one time, and I was doing the Instagram while I was driving, and you called me right away and said, you know.
00:46:15:24 - 00:46:16:21
Kyle Keefe
Maybe should you be.
00:46:16:21 - 00:46:17:24
Kyle Keefe
Driving and filming.
00:46:17:24 - 00:46:19:00
Tom Green
Yourself shouldn't be shown that.
00:46:19:00 - 00:46:21:11
Kyle Keefe
It hurt. Well, I deleted it.
00:46:21:13 - 00:46:22:07
Tom Green
I was trying to help you.
00:46:22:10 - 00:46:24:04
Kyle Keefe
I know just the smallest thing.
00:46:24:04 - 00:46:27:28
Tom Green
I was trying to correct you so that you didn't get the thousand people telling.
00:46:27:28 - 00:46:28:12
Kyle Keefe
You what.
00:46:28:12 - 00:46:30:02
Tom Green
A dummy you are and what's.
00:46:30:02 - 00:46:30:15
Kyle Keefe
Wrong with you.
00:46:30:19 - 00:46:51:11
Kyle Keefe
The effect that you have on my life is, you know, and I think it's worth sharing that not, you know, not only are you, you know who you were with. Great. You know, broadcaster. But it's it's relationships like what you and I have formed over the years and the relationships that I have with these guys and Peter McNair have gone back and gave and, you know, they're all different.
00:46:51:11 - 00:47:09:07
Kyle Keefe
You know, some are more serious than others and whatever. But this is the road that we're on, Tom. And now these sitting here with you, you know, two guys that just shoot the shit and drink beer and wine and play golf, and it's just kind of cool that it's taken us here. And we get to sit here and talk about, you know, sports and life.
00:47:09:07 - 00:47:11:05
Kyle Keefe
And it's a full circle thing.
00:47:11:08 - 00:47:24:16
Tom Green
We were having, dinner one time, our families, and, there was some lightning that came outside, and I was amazed at your phobia. For for lightning. Is lightning your number one fear or is it in your top.
00:47:24:16 - 00:47:25:11
Kyle Keefe
Five, number one or.
00:47:25:18 - 00:47:26:00
Tom Green
Number.
00:47:26:00 - 00:47:26:07
Kyle Keefe
One.
00:47:26:07 - 00:47:32:03
Tom Green
Number one. Is there a reason. Did you have a brush with lightning or do you just you imagine it's devastation?
00:47:32:03 - 00:47:40:07
Kyle Keefe
I just can't imagine. I want to be able to say, well, I'm screwed. I want to be able to go, Dana, I love you boys. It's been a.
00:47:40:07 - 00:47:45:07
Tom Green
Ride. But you weren't acting. You were. You have. You have a real lightning.
00:47:45:07 - 00:47:52:26
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, well, it's just over it. There's no. It's just over. It's like being hit by a bullet.
00:47:52:28 - 00:47:56:13
Tom Green
And this is from childhood. From forever. Or did you just decide when golf?
00:47:56:13 - 00:48:05:12
Kyle Keefe
Golf has a lot to do with it. You know, I, I like to play through anything. And lightning is one thing that I don't screw around with. I just said we shouldn't.
00:48:05:12 - 00:48:09:29
Tom Green
Anyway. The people are getting better at that. They used to think, yeah, it'll hit everywhere but me.
00:48:10:02 - 00:48:11:12
Kyle Keefe
You're right. And it doesn't.
00:48:11:19 - 00:48:19:14
Kyle Keefe
It goes lightning. This is kind of specific, but being in an inner tube in the ocean with my feet dangling like.
00:48:19:20 - 00:48:20:20
Tom Green
Oh, the shark bait.
00:48:20:20 - 00:48:23:02
Kyle Keefe
Yeah. Well, like it's you're basically saying.
00:48:23:02 - 00:48:24:07
Tom Green
But we've all been there.
00:48:24:07 - 00:48:26:22
Kyle Keefe
You Sharky shark. You know, you have not. You never.
00:48:26:22 - 00:48:27:27
Tom Green
Been. None of us have been there.
00:48:28:01 - 00:48:33:03
Kyle Keefe
But even in a pitch like in a pool, I'm like some kid.
00:48:33:03 - 00:48:46:09
Tom Green
You mentioned golf. You and I played a couple times with Jared Bednar. You've played a lot of golf with Jared Bednar and, as as great, a hockey coach is he is he is his golf is is.
00:48:46:12 - 00:48:47:13
Kyle Keefe
Fun.
00:48:47:16 - 00:49:11:09
Kyle Keefe
Is passionate the right word? Yeah. I would use he is so he loves golf. That's the best way to start. He loves it and he practices. He gets lessons. He goes to the base. He he'll send you random texts about, you know, I'm working on this and bringing my hands all all of that. Yeah. And he, you know, he has a three month window, you know, and he goes up to his ranch and and fiddles around hunts and South Carolina.
00:49:11:09 - 00:49:26:23
Kyle Keefe
But he loves to golf. And, you know, from playing with him that he's constantly trying to figure out and he'll, he'll if he has three pars in a row, everything's good. Right. But and then if he throws in a double or whatever, they're he's trying to figure it out. But speaking.
00:49:26:24 - 00:49:30:25
Tom Green
Perfection seeking the beauty I can't imagine playing with his.
00:49:30:25 - 00:49:31:11
Kyle Keefe
Hands.
00:49:31:11 - 00:49:36:05
Tom Green
They're so big and strong. Yeah. I just wondered would that be a gift or would that be a curse?
00:49:36:05 - 00:49:56:10
Kyle Keefe
He's got a soft touch. He's, he's he's really good around the the Greens. He's a good potter. Yeah. You know but it's it he cares right. Like he really genuinely cares and is trying to get better. And he's so into the handicap that he'll say, you know I'm down to a 13 .6. like yeah, get down to the point.
00:49:56:10 - 00:50:05:06
Kyle Keefe
You know I had a couple good rounds, but he's so fun to play with. He's I don't know if we've talked about hockey one time playing golf not once.
00:50:05:09 - 00:50:28:26
Tom Green
His public persona is coming out after a tough loss, coming out after a big win. He's he's so even keel. And you see him he's he's a if you ever see him in person he's a large man. He's large strong framed man. But he's gone from the worst team in the NHL to the champion to the team that that lost game seven to all this stuff.
00:50:28:26 - 00:50:40:23
Tom Green
And he comes out and he seems to be able to manage, you know, all my guys are hurt. All my guys are, you know, something's going on. He's got an incredible rudder.
00:50:40:28 - 00:50:49:23
Kyle Keefe
To to win at every level. There's very few coaches that you could say did that. But what I love about Betsy most is that he listens to the question.
00:50:49:25 - 00:50:50:12
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:50:50:15 - 00:50:55:07
Kyle Keefe
Like he's going to hear you out and the whole he doesn't have a stock answer.
00:50:55:08 - 00:51:00:16
Tom Green
There's never Sean Peyton's a little different. Yes. Can't wait till half the question is over to tell you you're wrong.
00:51:00:17 - 00:51:17:16
Kyle Keefe
Exactly. And, you know, and he likes it. He likes to mix it up, too. Sometimes he'll tell the the gaggle of us that are there and a lot of, you know, a lot of people are there, a lot more than me. You know, I try and dip in and dip out and, but he'll say, look, let's mix it up.
00:51:17:18 - 00:51:35:18
Kyle Keefe
You know, we can't go through every guy on the roster, you know, I mean, before too long, I mean, what are we doing? So. But he is genuinely, you know, after a loss, there's sometimes that, you know, let's just say they win like six zero abs win six zero. I can tell he's not in the mood to toot his own horn.
00:51:35:19 - 00:51:42:26
Kyle Keefe
No, no, you can tell when he walks out there if he's eating something like sometimes he eats like a snack bar or something. So if he's coming out there and it's like.
00:51:42:28 - 00:51:43:21
Tom Green
That's his tell.
00:51:43:28 - 00:51:58:29
Kyle Keefe
I'm like, okay, Teddy, Teddy G or whatever, that from rounders, you know, when he cooked, did the Oreos, I can tell he's in a good mood. And and you can you can get into it a little bit. Sometimes they may win like five. Nothing. And it's all business. Yeah. So you just got to weigh sort of it's.
00:51:58:29 - 00:52:19:09
Tom Green
Coach speak some of the time where you can never be satisfied with with victory there. Right. There was more left on the table or we we didn't do this right on this one power play or something like that. This team though is scary special. Now it's Thanksgiving time, so hockey doesn't truly matter yet. But boy, they've made a statement to start this year.
00:52:19:11 - 00:52:32:29
Tom Green
Nathan's made a statement. Kale continues to do his thing. The goalie thing has been a probably the most positive surprise as far as goalies that this has ever had. It's it's a real potential.
00:52:33:06 - 00:52:33:19
Kyle Keefe
Yes.
00:52:33:24 - 00:52:37:22
Tom Green
You look at this team and go, boy, they could do the thing.
00:52:37:24 - 00:52:52:24
Kyle Keefe
And take those three things out that you just mentioned. Nate okay. Maker and goaltending take those out. It's the depth right. If I go back to 2022 or 96 and I think of the Mike canes and the LA faves and,
00:52:52:27 - 00:52:53:19
Kyle Keefe
You know, even.
00:52:53:19 - 00:52:57:22
Tom Green
On the blue line, this team is off. You know, Burns has been a big plus.
00:52:57:22 - 00:53:14:14
Kyle Keefe
I think over the last the our last three home games, we had 14 points from our second, third and fourth lines. Defense defenseman I think we had 11 points over that three game winning streak. It's chipping in that Nathan MacKinnon didn't have a point the other night. For the first time since the 86.
00:53:14:16 - 00:53:15:04
Kyle Keefe
Stock market.
00:53:15:04 - 00:53:39:17
Kyle Keefe
Crash, it it's just amazing that depth is almost more important than star power. And I go back to the Tampa Bay lightning, who won two in a row. And those teams were stacked from the bottom up. Yeah, they had the coach trust and the Stamkos and the goaltending and all that, but they were so good everywhere else and health that they could just with you, they would just wear you down.
00:53:39:17 - 00:53:53:27
Kyle Keefe
60 minutes is too long to play a team like that. And I think what we've seen with the Avs up to this point is they've been down in games and they've rallied back. Yes, they've lost some in shoot out in overtimes, which is you know, it's a flip of a coin, three on three hockey or a shootout. It is what it is.
00:53:53:29 - 00:54:05:15
Kyle Keefe
But five on five. They've been so good in the second and third periods. Yeah. It's so that feeling that you're talking about and again with a grain of salt because I'm a huge homer and and it's.
00:54:05:18 - 00:54:06:02
Kyle Keefe
It's.
00:54:06:02 - 00:54:10:18
Tom Green
Hard to say it. Oh it's so good. So we're on cruise control.
00:54:10:18 - 00:54:13:07
Kyle Keefe
But the the injury did found the.
00:54:13:10 - 00:54:14:27
Kyle Keefe
Right word already.
00:54:14:27 - 00:54:19:15
Kyle Keefe
You know. But there's a million teams that have had injuries Gavin Brindley steps right in.
00:54:19:16 - 00:54:19:27
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:54:19:27 - 00:54:22:10
Kyle Keefe
Boom. And vows he's going to be fine Logan.
00:54:22:10 - 00:54:23:10
Tom Green
O'Connor's coming back.
00:54:23:11 - 00:54:24:03
Kyle Keefe
Coming back right.
00:54:24:09 - 00:54:24:26
Tom Green
Around as.
00:54:24:28 - 00:54:41:02
Kyle Keefe
If a goalie goes down. Oh you got this. You know, Trent Miner has been really good. Okay, well, Blackwood's back in Wedgewood. You know, it's just you've got options. And so I think what's so exciting for me and I think what you're pointing to is that little they're not just good they're Nikola Jokic.
00:54:41:02 - 00:55:04:03
Tom Green
Good. Well that's what I was going to say. They have the attention I mean they've lost one game in regulation. So far. And they're you know you look at what's going on over there the other nights when they're not playing. And the basketball team looks like they've got the thing to. And you know it's a nice vibe. It makes your postgame shows when you get on the love seat with, whichever guest comes up to sweat on your couch.
00:55:04:06 - 00:55:05:09
Kyle Keefe
It's so fun.
00:55:05:09 - 00:55:15:06
Kyle Keefe
It's it's the best thing about. It's the best thing about the post game is the people rush in there, right? Well, first of all, the bar's open for an hour right after the game, so you can let the traffic.
00:55:15:09 - 00:55:24:01
Tom Green
Did you like the move? Because you do the the road game still in studio, right. The home games, you're now in front of humans right in between periods and pre game and post game.
00:55:24:02 - 00:55:32:01
Kyle Keefe
You know, I prefer I would love it if there was 10,000 people in there I love. The more people the better. It's just a different vibe. And the players.
00:55:32:08 - 00:55:32:16
Tom Green
Over.
00:55:32:16 - 00:55:49:20
Kyle Keefe
You know they don't give two shits about me, but they love seeing the players and they know that, you know, about 11 minutes into the post game show, that's when they're going to get the player. So they're drinking and they're having fun, and we don't have a player if we lose, which you know, to this, to this point it's been very good once.
00:55:49:20 - 00:55:49:29
Kyle Keefe
Yeah.
00:55:50:04 - 00:56:05:13
Kyle Keefe
But to have, you know Josh Manson come up there, you know, have I think just recently had Gavin Brindley or Ross Colton there and these they're, they're ten feet away from the player. Just. Yep. Fresh off the ice which is the most raw you're ever going to get a player. Because it's just fresh in their memory.
00:56:05:13 - 00:56:25:29
Tom Green
And there's so many sporting events that I think are really done strictly for television. I think the NFL is, is the games are played for TV and the people in the in in the stadium are often looked past. And so this is a nice thing for people who are at the arena who actually laid down the cash. Yeah, show up, cheer, wear their jersey and all that.
00:56:26:01 - 00:56:38:02
Tom Green
They actually do get a little bit more than the TV viewer gets because they get the in the break or when he walks in or all those things. It's a nice touch for the the fan fan who actually made it to Ball Arena.
00:56:38:02 - 00:56:57:04
Kyle Keefe
And it's it's open. Even though it's on club level, it's open. Everybody with a 300 ticket level for 100, anybody can come up there. Right. Here's the other thing I'll say is that that's a little bit of our time to make the player real, too. Yeah, it's fun to talk about the game, but then it's also fun to say what's going on with that mustache you got right here?
00:56:57:06 - 00:57:12:26
Kyle Keefe
You know, I saw this video you doing. The guys are there ready to to to sort of divulge a little bit more about themselves in that moment, which, you know, is that's what people want. You know, they want to feel like, hey, I'm a little bit like that guy right there, right? Or I knew I liked him, but now.
00:57:12:26 - 00:57:13:12
Kyle Keefe
I figured, I.
00:57:13:12 - 00:57:14:24
Tom Green
Thought, yeah, smaller night. Yeah.
00:57:14:29 - 00:57:15:20
Kyle Keefe
He's. Yeah, yeah.
00:57:15:24 - 00:57:28:11
Kyle Keefe
And it's just been, it's that's a really cool part of of what we're doing. And, Mackerel. I should give him some props. He did it. He did a nice job. He designed that whole thing, and a lot of people did it. But it's fun. It's a good way to wrap it up.
00:57:28:14 - 00:57:30:01
Kyle Keefe
Yeah, well.
00:57:30:03 - 00:57:46:02
Tom Green
Hopefully I have a good one tonight. I could talk with you for hours, but I will. But our microphones and cameras won't be here. You want to get to spend some time together? Hopefully on the golf course or at a local establishment and share some stories. Get our families together. But, happy Thanksgiving, continued success to the abs.
00:57:46:02 - 00:57:51:01
Tom Green
And I love. I love your story. I always have, and I love that you get to share a lot of it today.
00:57:51:04 - 00:57:52:24
Kyle Keefe
To John Elway sitting there, see before me.
00:57:52:29 - 00:58:00:09
Tom Green
He was in that one. Oh yeah. You're sitting in Woody's not is not as cool.
00:58:00:11 - 00:58:04:10
Kyle Keefe
Come on I love Woody. Thanks a million thanks appreciate that's awesome.
00:58:06:21 - 00:58:19:12
Tom Green
Hopefully, as you could tell, I really love spending time with Kyle Keefe. I hope you did, too. And I hope later, unless we get canceled, we'll get Ryker on. We'll get Lyles on. We'll get their side of the story.
00:58:19:14 - 00:58:38:20
Tom Green
But it'll be, a lot of fun. And hopefully fans are really enjoying what the Avs have done this year. As always, if you like or subscribe, I guess that's good for us. So do that. Or you can always send money or, you can reach us, via the old email system. Just send it to here down to, gorilla Sportsnet.
00:58:38:22 - 00:58:45:27
Tom Green
I thank you, as always, for spending some time with us, and hopefully we'll see you right back here again next week.